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| | | AZCactus | | Taranis |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,524 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 11 Jan 2020 - 02:05 Post title : New Indian Challenger | | | Dave posted about it. All I can say is the bike looks awesome (no, not leaving the bird's nest)! The Rocket is already obsolete in many ways unless you insist on 40 more HP.
Liquid cooled, 6 gallon tank...American engineering.
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| | Posted : 11 Jan 2020 - 02:32 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: AZCactus) | | |  What is that monstrosity hanging off the handlebars? Typical Indian with way too much metalwork, not for this bloke.
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| | Posted : 11 Jan 2020 - 02:38 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Leethal) | | | you mean technology??
Anyway, awesome bike imo. Of all the latest cruisers, it's interesting.
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| | Posted : 11 Jan 2020 - 06:55 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: AZCactus) | | | Indian just announced today that they are closing down their Company Owned Outlets in Australia and going across to Franchise Outlet. so that a quick recipe for a disaster in this country.
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| | Posted : 11 Jan 2020 - 15:13 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: GerPa) | | | From 100 ft. looks much like a Harley. Did anyone notice the Metzelers?
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| | Posted : 12 Jan 2020 - 05:05 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Linkdog) | | | Missing it tassels 
Sought of thought that Indians were the alternate bike for the mature HD rider.
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| | Posted : 12 Jan 2020 - 08:47 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Linkdog) | | |
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From 100 ft. looks much like a Harley. Did anyone notice the Metzelers? |
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Yep Sure did. Cheap and Nasty. Just enough to get it off the production line.
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| | Posted : 12 Jan 2020 - 13:40 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: GerPa) | | | It seems the Tribe is on the warpath over on Link Lots of issues with the Challenger and the FTR with no answers from Polaris/Indian.
These are very expensive bikes with way too much technology. Most buyers of these bikes are doctors, lawyers and Indian Chiefs and former HD guys  .
Indian is trying to take on the HD boys and it's currently a bad look. You only get a few chances to land an uppercut on your opponent, swing and a miss, swing and a miss and he'll knock you out.
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| | Posted : 12 Jan 2020 - 17:28 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Hornet) | | | It needs a whole lot of chrome. Looks plastic.
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| | Posted : 12 Jan 2020 - 21:41 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Hornet) | | |
Hornet wrote:
It seems the Tribe is on the warpath over on Link Lots of issues with the Challenger and the FTR with no answers from Polaris/Indian.
These are very expensive bikes with way too much technology. Most buyers of these bikes are doctors, lawyers and Indian Chiefs and former HD guys .
Indian is trying to take on the HD boys and it's currently a bad look. You only get a few chances to land an uppercut on your opponent, swing and a miss, swing and a miss and he'll knock you out. |
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Gee I thought Dave would have told us about that.
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| | Posted : 13 Jan 2020 - 05:36 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Leethal) | | |
Leethal wrote:
Hornet wrote:
It seems the Tribe is on the warpath over on Link Lots of issues with the Challenger and the FTR with no answers from Polaris/Indian.
These are very expensive bikes with way too much technology. Most buyers of these bikes are doctors, lawyers and Indian Chiefs and former HD guys .
Indian is trying to take on the HD boys and it's currently a bad look. You only get a few chances to land an uppercut on your opponent, swing and a miss, swing and a miss and he'll knock you out. |
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Gee I thought Dave would have told us about that. |
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Does Dave have an Indian? or is it a Myth, I don't recall ever seeing a picture of Him and his Indian. Like preveiously I think He might just have been a troll Shit it's been peacful.  Well that most probabley just fucked the quietness.
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| | Posted : 13 Jan 2020 - 09:18 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Dags) | | |
Dags wrote:
Missing it tassels
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We call em "Rolling Hotdog Stands" in DK.
The side bags, filled with water, heated by the exhaust, drop the sausages into the hot water, and warm the bread on top of the motor.
It don't get any better, if you are into Hotdogs. 
The only difference between a Harley Road Glide and the Challenger, is the Road Glide warm up the water a bit faster
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 14 Jan 2020 - 18:56 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Slcharger) | | | That new Challenger is quite a machine,make no mistake about it,just not for me.Why?? Cause it's got that big fairing on it and will usually be in the way anytime ya have ta work on it [meaning it will have to be removed] plus a bunch of other electrically operated stuff that I do NOT need.I've owned several machines with fairings like that and every time I had to do something on it,the fairing needed to be removed which was usually an act of GOD.Hence the reason I bought the Springfield Dark Horse because instead of a fairing, it's got a quick release windscreen on it,just like the Tbird has,only alittle larger.However,in a drag race,I think I'd put my money on the Challenger ,[122HP verses the Tbirds' 98HP] and it does go.[Watch the videos on it]
I am now just shy of the 32,000 mile mark and couldn't be happier.For one,the tires last waaaaaaaaaaaaay longer then 6 or 7000 miles like those fuckin radials did on my Tbird,and it didn't make any difference as to what make tire I put on it or what pressures I ran in em.And she definitely has more torque then the Tbird. [98 inches of motor verses Indians 111 inches of motor] However,the Tbird is definitely faster on acceleration,make no mistake about it.And believe it or not,the model I bought is about the same weight as the Tbird.I believe the big difference in the ride is because the Indian has a 5 inch longer wheel base.
Eventually,I'll post some pictures of it so you guys can make copies and throw darts at it.
But so far,so good!! I'm a happy camper! Dave!!!
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| | Posted : 14 Jan 2020 - 23:26 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: davetac1) | | | davetac1 wrote:
That new Challenger is quite a machine,make no mistake about it.... |
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Not sure about that Dave. The response has not been very receptive (to put it lightly). btw have you made peace with your indian brothers? In the meantime hang out here
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 15 Jan 2020 - 04:35 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: AZCactus) | | | I don't have any Indian brothers,only Indian sisters! Why? Cause they're better looking.My ole man didn't raise no dummy!!
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| | Posted : 16 Jan 2020 - 16:18 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Hornet) | | | Obviously,I'm also on one of the Indian sites, just like I was on this site,to learn about the scooter I was either driving at the time,or interested in buying.But usually any problems I had read about pertaining to the Indian ,or any brand of motorcycle I looked at,including the Triumph,were either minimal ,or man made.
In other words,I have NOT read about any major factory problems regarding any of the Indian models,nor did I when I bought my Tbird as I researched both machines BEFORE buying em.
So the bottom line is: if man left his machine a lone and used it for its' intended purpose,many of these problems would be non existent! OR Putting it bluntly:"MAN,does infact,CREATE HIS OWN PROBLEMS"!!! Dave!!!
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| | Posted : 17 Jan 2020 - 12:18 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: davetac1) | | | davetac1 wrote:
Obviously,I'm also on one of the Indian sites, just like I was on this site,to learn about the scooter I was either driving at the time,or interested in buying.But usually any problems I had read about pertaining to the Indian ,or any brand of motorcycle I looked at,including the Triumph,were either minimal ,or man made.
In other words,I have NOT read about any major factory problems regarding any of the Indian models,nor did I when I bought my Tbird as I researched both machines BEFORE buying em.
So the bottom line is: if man left his machine a lone and used it for its' intended purpose,many of these problems would be non existent! OR Putting it bluntly:"MAN,does infact,CREATE HIS OWN PROBLEMS"!!! Dave!!! |
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You should probably read this thread about the Challenger, get into the meat of it. 2/3 pages in. These are brandy new, not modification issues. Link lots of issues with the FTR as well.
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| | Posted : 17 Jan 2020 - 14:09 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Hornet) | | | I didn't read all the posts, it sounds more or less software/electrical glitches which will be addressed. Anyway the ride is probably awesome but I have no desire to own a new ($$$, hi tech) bike or to wrench on one.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Jan 2020 - 14:30 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: Hornet) | | | The site you reference is also the Indian site I'm on and have read a lot of things on there posted by those guys.I can't speak for everyone on that site,but I too had similar problems with my bike shortly after buying it.I too had a occasional skip which also thru a check engine light and a code and many of the so called techs,who worked at these stealerships,couldn't figure it out! Why?? Because they are NOT experienced enough,plus,before they touched it,they are required to call and speak with one of the einstein engineers who designed the machine to report the problem.Then these Einsteins would tell em how to fix it and nine outta ten times,they were wrong!Shocking,isn't it?? lol lol When my problem occurred ,I knew right away what the problem was,fixed it in ten minutes,then took a ride over to the place I bought it from to tell the techs what I found as an FYI!!
The first problem,the skip or misfire,was caused from the front cylinder plug wire laying directly on top of the front cylinder head and would short to ground ounce the motor warmed up.But it was a very simple fix and something that I have run into many times over the years on vehicles I've worked on and repaired.I cut off and used a small piece of fuel line I had layin around my shop,slit it down the middle so i could slide it over the wires where they were touching the cylinder heads,and PROBLEM SOLVED.
The second problem wasn't so easy,cause it did NOT jump right out at me. I had to put my thinking cap on to solve it.But it was actually a very common problem which has to do with available voltage,and again,an easy fix.The battery negative cable,where it was attached to the frame rail,was loose,not real loose,but NOT tight enough,and I did check and torque it right after buying the machine when I did my inservice inspection.So I pulled the seat again,rechecked that connection,and tightened it up,yet more[without breaking the bolt] ,fired it up,and problem solved.And I did relay that info on to the guys on that site.Now whether they heeded it or not,I don't know??
But,since I've only been doing this kind of work for the last 200 years,lol lol [atleast it sometimes feels like that] I was able to identify the symptoms and address em accordingly. Dumber then a door knob,Dave!!!
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Jun 2021 - 23:52 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: davetac1) | | | I have a bunch of pics of my Injun and will post em here ASAP.I didn't think anyone really wanted to see a foreign scooter on a Triumph site.The problem is,my secretary is in Florida right now and won't be back for another week.But when she gets here,I'll have her post em in this thread so all you guys can see what my new girl looks like!! Fair enough?? Dave!!!
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 11 Jul 2022 - 18:38 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: AZCactus) | | | Indian has another new model out Rich called the "PURSUIT",but only sells for $40,000 plus!! So,how many do ya wanna buy??
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| | Posted : 12 Jul 2022 - 13:42 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: davetac1) | | | Dave, nice to know but owning a new bike is in the past. Pursuit specs- 
Anyway the killer for me is the weight w/fuel, 912 lbs! I think after Thunderbird's exhaust mod and lithium battery, she may weigh in at 699 lbs., fighting weight.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 13 Jul 2022 - 09:01 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: AZCactus) | | | Morning Rich! How goes the battle sir?? The Tbird I owned was the SE model which came with bags,touring saddle,windscreen, a fancy red paint job,and had a curb weight of 812 lbs. The Indian SDH I bought has a curb weight of 863 lbs.,or about 50 lbs. more,but,is balanced differently and has a lower seat height,meaning, it's really not that bad to handle in traffic.The Yamaha Venture [RSV] I owned before buying the Tbird had a curb weight of 869 lbs. and was a real tank to handle ,especially in traffic.So the Indian model I bought is similar to my RSV,but lighter and her weight distributed better.Now If I bought the Road Master,that machine is a real tank to handle cause it goes close to a 1000 lbs.
The Challenger and the new Pursuit models are both heavy,yet weigh in less then the Road Master,atleast that's what the specs say.I haven't physically shaken hands with one yet or ridden one,but that's what I've been told!! Dave!!!
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| | Posted : 13 Jul 2022 - 15:52 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: davetac1) | | | Holy cow! I can see why they avoid using the word 'tank'.
It'll cost about $200 to fill that thing (today). Where do you put 35 gallons of gas?!
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| | Posted : 13 Jul 2022 - 17:31 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: MotorMac) | | |
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Holy cow! I can see why they avoid using the word 'tank'.
It'll cost about $200 to fill that thing (today). Where do you put 35 gallons of gas?!
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You put the 35 gallons of gas in the saddle bags and the trunk.If I read their ad right,35 gallons is exactly the amount the bags and truck combined ,hold .So there ya go!! lol lol
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| | Posted : 14 Jul 2022 - 13:39 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: davetac1) | | | What?!
When did we start measuring storage in gallons?
We're not ALL beer drinkers y'know...
Yikes, I thought the thing actually carries 35 gal. - 275 pounds of gas.
Next time I gas up I'll order two cubic feet.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 14 Jul 2022 - 23:15 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: MotorMac) | | | I'm not the guy who measures storage space in gallons!! That's the terminology that Polaris uses to measure the storage/carrying capacity in their bikes!! I guess that's the terminology the Polaris engineers were taught in College!! lol lol
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| | Posted : 16 Jul 2022 - 18:53 Post title : Re: New Indian Challenger (Re: davetac1) | | | BTW: Yesterday I took alittle ride over to the bike shop where I bought my Injun to check out this new Pursuit model they just came out with.Guess how many bikes they had on the floor??? Give up?? FIVE[5] brand new bikes!! That's it!!!  One Road Master and four smaller models.DUH!!! I guess they're having problems getting new bikes in for stock too like a lot of other bike shops are experiencing.
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